GET TO KNOW ME MEME: [1/5] favourite relationships » Buffy & Spike
"When I say, I love you, it’s not because I want you or because I can’t have you. It has nothing to do with me. I love what you are, what you do, how you try. I’ve seen your kindness and your strength. I’ve seen the best and the worst of you. And I understand with perfect clarity exactly what you are. You’re a hell of a woman. You’re the one, Buffy.
RISE [listen] a mix for the four horsemen of the apocalypse; and I saw when the lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, come and see
i. redemption - audiomachine | ii. apres moi - regina spektor | iii. daisy - brand new | iv. far from any road - the handsome family | v. the mission - puscifer | vi. and the world was gone - snow ghosts | vii. four winds - bright eyes | viii. pet - a perfect circle | ix. running up that hill - placebo | x. fallen empires - snow patrol | xi. the beginning is the end is the beginning - smashing pumpkins | xii. writing on a wall - the dear hunter | xiii. the new earth - audiomachine
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You are just as important as the rest of us.All the fandoms should see this.
the point of pouring a shit ton of ice water over yourself is because when one suffers from amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS) one of the affects the disease has is a numbness throughout the body, as well as struggling to breathe, and both these are meant to temporarily happen when doused in freezing water. It’s to raise awareness of what ALS feels like and encourage donations towards research and cures.
"I killed an innocent man, Skye."
Interesting thing about Skye is that she’s ready to find explanations and even excuses for anyone she considers a “good guy”. She doesn’t look at the actions, but what the person behind those actions means to her/represents in her opinion. She was okay with “little Hulk rage” and with Ward shooting people - even with him shooting a possibly innocent person - until he was revealed as a Hydra spy. (She was all against SHIELD until SHIELD became the team that offered her a home, and their habit of breaking human rights wasn’t much of an issue any more. She went from SECRETS BAD! to YAY SECRETS!! in less than a single season - and that shows just how the need for belonging and love can warp our judgement and our priorities.)
She can udnerstand that it’s “not Mike’s fault because he’s done everything he did for Ace”, but she can’t wrap her heada round the fact that Ward has done everything he has done for someone he considers a father figure and a savior (and mind you, both Ward and Mike have done horrible things) - granted, she doesn’t know this yet, but her bias in thinking and judging someone’s behavior is rather obvious. As much as I love her as a character - and I ADORE her - she needs to learn a few hard lessons.
Just wondering… With her father figure (Coulson) on the T.A.H.I.T.I. path of psychosis…what happens when he orders her to do something that may not be the right thing to do? I’m curious if that might happen, and if so, what her reaction will be.
Actually, he has already ordered Skye to do something illegal. Namely, to destroy the SHIELD documentation on the team and assist him in running away from Talbot, who had every right to want to interrogate all SHIELD personnel regarding Hydra.
Coulson may have had a reason to resist Talbot, but having a reason does not make this an OK thing to do. The military were painted as the adversary because they were in his way, but they were actually investigating a treason of the highest order and were completely right in their wish to neutralize every known member of SHIELD until further notice.
Also of note: Natasha Romanoff reacts to Hydra threat by making all SHIELD info (including info on herself) public. Phil Coulson reacts by erasing everything about his team. Accountability isn’t very strong with this one, is it?
Huh! Good points! And wow, that really sends home the message about what a complete 180 Skye has done since Episode 1, doesn’t it?
"The secret is out. For decades, your organization stayed in the shadows, hiding the truth, but now we know-they’re among us. Heroes… and monsters. The world is full of wonders… We can’t explain everything we see. But our eyes are open. So what now? There are no more shadows for you to hide in. Something impossible just happened. What are you going to do about it? How will you come at us? From the air? From the ground? How will you silence us this time? How can you? The truth is in the wind. It’s everywhere. You cannot stop the Rising Tide. You will not find us. You will never see our faces but rest assured-we will rise against those who shield us from the truth. And nothing - nothing can stop us in the—" (yeah, that was the point where a bag was tossed over her head and she was kidnapped by Coulson and Ward).
I’ve wondered in past posts, how many missions were compromised by Skye’s work with the Rising Tide? In the pilot episode, the very first time we see Ward he’s on a mission to retrieve a piece of alien tech, and a superior officer tells him to abort because the Rising Tide has released the location publicly online. Ward doesn’t want to abort because he’s already there, so he goes in and retrieves the alien tech and is ambushed by two or three guys. A lot of viewers now would probably be happy if those three guys had killed him in the pilot…but if they did, who would have been responsible for that death? From the sound of it, it isn’t the first time the Rising Tide had compromised a mission. Were any people killed because of information they released? And if so, who is responsible for those deaths?
A lot of characters thought they were doing the right things for the right reasons:
- Ward’s mission to find out how Coulson was brought back to life, to save Garrett;
- May’s “mission” to watch Coulson and report on him and the team to Fury;
- Skye’s original mission (to expose SHIELD to the world - hm, kinda like Romanoff?) and then her mission now - to hide SHIELD and its secrets from the world;
- Simmons’ (with help from Fitz and even Trip) intention to find out the truth behind the GH.325;
- and like you said, Coulson’s resisting Talbot for the sake of saving Skye/striking against Garrett;
- Nick Fury using GH.325 on Coulson despite Coulson’s own insistence that it NEVER be used on ANYONE. EVER.
Of all of those, the only one I think was actually moral was Simmons’ because (if we believe what she said, and I think I do), she didn’t think it was right to hide such a cure/treatment from the world; it could potentially save lives. Sure, knowing what they now know about it, obviously GH.325 is not something GOOD, but she likely would have eventually figured that out had she been given the opportunity and the proper resources to study it without having to hide what she was doing.
To say the lines are grey now is an understatement. WE Ward supporters all agree that Ward has to answer for what he’s done, but I think so do a LOT of other people.
ALL i want is others to be faced with the fact that they all did shady shit. And take a walk in Ward’s shoes, aka, have to choose the lesser evil and then deal with it. Really DEAL. And then judge Ward, after learning why he acted the way he did. Would they call themselves heroes if they realized their hands are dirty as well? That’s what i want to see.
"FANART IS NOT REAL ART!!!"
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I’m not completely sure…I DO want to see him redeemed at some point. I don’t think it should be a redemption arc to necessarily get him back on the team, at least not now. I think hes ultimately a “good guy,” but I don’t think he knows it yet. He doesn’t know WHO he is.
He needs to (a) acknowledge/admit what he’s done; (b) stay away from the team, at least for now (they are victims too); and (c) not be tortured. If he’s tortured by SHIELD, that would make me wonder who the “bad guys” are. It would also confirm what Garrett told him 15 years ago about SHIELD.
I won’t be pissed off if he stays a bad guy in Season 2. I think if they do end up redeeming him, which the Whedons and Marvel are both notorious for, there’s going to be a lot of soul-searching for him and he might be lost for a while and not really know which side he’s really on. I won’t be upset if a redemption arc takes all season (or more than one season even).
They gave a LOT of attention to his back story (The Well and Ragtag); none of the other characters got that much back story in Season 1, so I doubt they did that for no reason. In the real world, it would go either way - either he chooses to be good or he chooses to be bad. But this is television, and I don’t think they’d give an obviously abusive backstory (abuse by his family, manipulation and more abuse by Garrett) and NOT redeem him, simply because it would be poor representation for abuse victims and send the wrong message (my opinion).
I think the closest we got to seeing the “real” Grant Ward was in The Well in the scene where Skye finds him on the ground after he’s first touched the staff and he recoils in fear when he first comes to. Later in the episode, Elliot Randolph tells him why he (Randolph) didn’t like the Berserker Staff; he didn’t like the rage it made him feel - “…and neither do you, it seems.” That was very telling to me. I think without Garrett’s influence, Grant Ward would have been a very different person. So now we have to see who he decides to be now that Garrett IS gone. Is it too late for him? I hope not.
Unless he goes full-on evil bad guy, I’ll still root for him. Unless something fantastically crazy happens, I don’t want to see his redemption arc rushed.
TL;DR: Yes, I want him to be redeemed…eventually; not overnight. No, I don’t want him to stay a bad guy, but he’s going to flounder for a while, so I won’t stop rooting for him unless he becomes irredeemably evil.
I keep thinking what would make him irredeemable and I think it’s that one moment where HE decides that he wants to be evil and he would have to seriously hurt (maybe even kill) someone he truly loves. Which I don’t think he could ever do given what we’ve seen. He can kill at the drop of an order when it’s some nameless face or even someone he doesn’t actually know. Because he’s a soldier/assassin and that’s what he was trained to do. He is emotionally detached from any of those kills. But the moment it gets personal, a crime of passion if you will, that’s when he will fully descend into villain status. Until then, we’ll be rooting for him to be redeemed.
I don’t think they’ll redeem him in season 2. Brett already said they’re not going to rush it. I have a feeling he’ll keep straddling that line all through season 2. He’s going to do a lot of bad things and then he’s going to turn around and do something good.
He needs someone to tell him that he is a good man. Or that he can be at least. But that someone can’t be Skye. It’ll have to be someone who he doesn’t really have a personal attachment to. Maybe someone like Trip?
Yup, I agree. I don’t know, though, if someone will need to tell him he’s a good man. I think that’s something he could figure out on his own now that his mind isn’t being influenced by Garrett. Maybe memories of his time with the team, of seemingly little things - Skye’s being worried about him after he touched the staff; Fitz’s refusal to leave when they were on the “suicide” mission; Simmons’ always patching him up, even when he was raging; Coulson’s comment that nobody’s nobody, etc. But yeah, Trip would be a good person to have in his corner, if only as a voice of reason to help him see the light. Everyone needs a voice of reason, so that would be awesome, and I could totally see Trip doing that.